Paul Revere by Cyrus Dallin, North End, Boston

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Thursday, August 11, 2016

The Latest From a Trump Supporter, After Trump's 2nd Amendment Threat



Trump is lying again when he falsely claims Hillary Clinton would "abolish" the 2nd Amendment if she were president. Trump has shown himself, again, to be ignorant of our system of laws to understand that a president can't, on her own,"abolish" an amendment to the Constitution. His supporters are apparently too dumb to understand that fact as well. But there it is. 

Trump is a demagogue -- someone who seeks power by appealing to people's fears and ignorance and promises to solve all their problems without giving them any details on how, except to say "I'm the only one who can do it."

PolitiFact: 

We found no evidence that Clinton has ever advocated for repealing or abolishing the Second Amendment. Schwerin’s comments are largely consistent with what Clinton has said in the past few years about the right to bear arms. However, gun rights advocates argue that it’s reasonable to infer from a few of Clinton’s comments that she wants to roll back the Second Amendment as it’s currently interpreted. 

 Straight shooting on the campaign trail In both her 2008 and 2016 White House bids, Clinton has called for stronger background check requirements all the while affirming her support for the right to bear arms. Clinton does want to keep guns out of the hands of "people we all agree shouldn't have them — domestic abusers, violent felons, and dangerously mentally ill people," said Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Violence. 

But Trump’s charge exaggerates the controls she wants to put in place and ignores what she has said on the record. "I believe in the Second Amendment. People have a right to bear arms. But I also believe that we can common-sensically approach this," she said in a January 2008 Democratic presidential debate.

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Our ruling:  

Trump said, "Hillary Clinton wants to abolish the Second Amendment." We found no evidence of Clinton ever saying verbatim or suggesting explicitly that she wants to abolish the Second Amendment, and the bulk of Clinton’s comments suggest the opposite. She has repeatedly said she wants to protect the right to bear arms while enacting measures to prevent gun violence.





And here's one of Trump's supporters:



12 comments:

Shaw Kenawe said...


John Favreau:

"In the coming weeks, Trump will try once again to make this election a referendum on Hillary Clinton. But this is a man who can only think about himself — who can only talk about himself — whose entire campaign is premised not on policies or vision or ideology, but on the single promise that he alone has the qualifications to lead this country."

Jerry Critter said...

Trump has done it again. Yesterday, he said that Obama is the founder of ISIS and Clinton is a co-founder. What do we do to founders of ISIS. Well, so far we have been assassinating them.

Leo T. Lyon said...

You can tell when the wingnuts are feeling depressed, they put their blogs in comment moderation. The reality of what's happened to Drumpf since the Dem convention is sinking in and the wingnuts haz a sad! Karma is a bitch!

Poll: Clinton opens a double digit lead over Trump.

Shaw Kenawe said...



Jerry, Trump is now in desperation mode. This is what he is.

He knows it and a lot of his supporters know it. We knew it last summer, but it took a year for the American people to see what a complete horse's arse he is.

The wingnuts were predicting a Trump White House only a few weeks ago. Trump is now losing support among older white men! The last demographic that's been loyal to him! Do you think we can get Canada and Mexico into the electoral college so that it will be a North American continental defeat for Trump?

Shaw Kenawe said...


Pete, I've been in comment moderation for a long time because of the filthy comments from the Stench Trench regulars. Does anyone know why they've put their blogs in comment moderation?

Yeah. Karma's a bitch.

Bluebull said...

These Trump scumbags need to understand that MANY of us are also armed - we're just not crazy like they are!

Les Carpenter said...

Having fun still I see.

Thanks for bringing back to rational reality and moving me rightward again Shaw.

Les Carpenter said...

Guess he couldn't handle the HEAT

Kevin Robbins said...

As if the Secret Service's job isn't hard enough.

Shaw Kenawe said...



"Rational Nation USA said...
Having fun still I see.

Thanks for bringing back to rational reality and moving me rightward again Shaw."

????What????

Shaw Kenawe said...



" Rational Nation USA said...
Guess he couldn't handle the HEAT

August 11, 2016 at 1:05 PM Delete"

Has he closed permanently? He keeps closing and then opening his blog. The trolls have a field day on his blog.

Les Carpenter said...

Guess he has went to members only.